Issue #6 - October 2013
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Interview with Bud
Podrazik
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(interview conducted by Wolfman,
Bud is a gifted artist who created the Strat-o-matic Fanatic
Logo and is a good friend of John Dewan. Bud
participated in the 1980
National Convention we held at Northwestern University in Evanston
and
I had brief contact with him previously.)
(Notes from the Wolfman:
We all have our unique stories linked to Strat-o-matic, and
Bud
is no different except that he is also a very good artist. He
plays in the SOM face-to-face baseball league which John Dewan
told us about in his interview. So as we try to share in
issue different angles around the people linked to the game we
love and how it has affected their lives, I thought it would be
interesting to also speak to Bud and have him share his special
Strat experiences with our members. So Bud, we welcome you to the Ultimate Strat Baseball
Newsletter.)
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Wolfman:
Bud,
thanks very much for allowing us to do this interview
with you. It interesting to hear from former Strat
friends you have met in the past
and see how they are doing after so many years later ...
as well as to gain some new insights into your friend,
the legendary John Dewan. But first ...
Bud, have you always been interested in Baseball since
you were young?
Bud:
I knew
the very basics of baseball when I was young (three
strikes and you're out, four balls for a walk, doubles
are two bases, etc.), I enjoyed it, but it never
really became a focus of mine until I turned sixteen.
Wolfman:
Did you root for the Cubs or White Sox?
Bud:
I spent
the first nine years of my life living in my
grandfather's two-flat in Bridgeport, which was about a
mile-and-a-half from the original Comiskey Park. If
fact, the last summer I lived there, 1960, you could
hear the roaring thunder of the exploding scoreboard in
our backyard! |
Naturally, it was
a White Sox household as far as my Dad was concerned (My mother
never showed any interest in baseball). Upstairs, my Aunt Julia
and Uncle Wally were divided; she was the South Side rooter and
he was a Cubs fan. I always rooted for both teams, siding with
the Sox when they tangled with each other.
My true interest
in baseball came about when I was 16. Our local television
station in Chicago, WGN-TV, was running syndicated reruns of The
Mickey Mouse Club, and I'd run home as fast as I could to catch
the animated cartoons at the end of the show - part of my
interest in cartooning (which we'll cover later).
Well, this
particular summer, 1968, was the year of the pitcher - when no
one knew how to score - and the broadcasted Cubs games would
often go into extra innings until somebody finally achieved home
plate. Jimmy Dodd and the Mouseketeers weren't going to show up
until the game was over, so I started watching the ends of the
Cub games while waiting. Two things got me hooked. First
was Jack Brickhouse's enthusiastic broadcasting. I finally
started getting curious about the nuances of the game.
As
an example: Why was the lead runner out on the throw from third
to second without having been tagged (I didn't know what a force
was)? The other thing that caught my attention was a described
"skinny" (not by my standards) first baseman named Ernie Banks,
who picked this time to start running off a string of home runs.
He slapped them so effortlessly that I thought there was still
hope for me as a power hitter!
One of my biggest
regrets in life was not knowing just how big a baseball fan my
father Ed actually was. He had passed away the year before, in
1967, at the age of 52 - way too soon. Ten years later, I was
rummaging through a box of old newspapers in our basement that
he had saved for the World War II headlines (he had served in
the Pacific). At the time, I was going to look through them for
the styling and detailing of older comic strips. To my
surprise, dad also had saved the entire newspapers for five of
the six 1959 White Sox-Dodgers World Series, articles about
great moments in the game (The Merkle Boner, the 1924 Series,
Ruth's 60th homer, etc.), the headlines of Rogers Hornsby's
passing - just a lot of baseball stuff. Wish I had developed
the passion earlier; he would have LOVED Strat-O-Matic
Baseball.
Wolfman:
Who were some of your favorite MLB players you followed when you
were young?
Bud:
Ernie Banks still
remains my favorite all-time player. Pete Ward also comes to
mind (I tended to pay attention to the power hitters, at first)
Also, Hoyt Wilhelm, Wilbur Wood, Fergie Jenkins, Billy Williams,
Walter "No Neck" Williams, Ron Santo.
Wolfman:
Did you play baseball and if so what was your position?
Bud:
I played catch
with a neighbor and got involved with "Fast Pitching" when I was
11. That's what we called the game where you drew a strike zone
box with chalk on a brick wall and made boundaries for extra
base hits (I believe the interview with John Dewan covered this
pretty well). At this point in time, I was living a couple of
blocks from an industrial area, so there were a lot of factory
walls to pitch against. Our favorite spot was a carpet factory -
a real "pitcher's park". You were always hitting into the wind,
so, when they would occasionally park a semi-trailer parallel to
the opposite wall, we would adjust the rules and use that as our
'Fenway Green Monster" to get some cheaper homers and increase
the offense in our games.
A lot of me not
being involved with sports early on stemmed from being severely
underweight as a kid and having a health issue that didn't clear
itself up until I was well into my teens. When I began playing
regular baseball or softball on the field, I was always thrown
into the outfield, where my bad depth perception and a rotten
throwing arm didn't help matters any. Later, I would be moved
into the infield. I was best at second base or at first. I was
good at getting on-base in softball...could motor down the line
pretty fast. It also helped being a left-handed batter.
Wolfman:
Bud, I understand you are also an artist, that you created the
SOM Fanatic logo for the game company - tell us, have you always
been artistic? When did you become interested to do graphic art
and know you had this gift?
Bud:
Since the time I
drew a perfect Mickey Mouse freehand when I was 4 years old on
the chalkboard by our kitchen - without copying anything - I
knew I wanted to be a cartoonist. Art was my first obsession
before baseball. I drew on any piece of paper or cardboard I
could get my hands on as a youngster. I received my Bachelor Of
Arts in Art from Saint Xavier College (now Saint Xavier
University), and have done freelance illustrations on the side
while working in the retail trade selling artist and drafting
materials. Over the years I have also attempted submitting comic
strips for syndication. I recently finished illustrating a book
for an author on Buddhism ("Zen Unleashed: Everyday Buddhist
Wisdom From Man's Best Friend" by Tim Macejak, Beaver's Pond
Press - if you'll forgive the plug). It uses dog illustrations
and haiku poetry to teach the basic principles. Currently, I've
been finishing up the art on a children's book of sorts I've
written in the hopes of future publication.
Wolfman:
We will come back to how you did the design for the SOM Fanatic
logo. Bud, how did you find Strat-o-matic? Was this the first
baseball game you played? What is your story about how this
game came into your life?
Bud:
A neighbor kid on
my block had the APBA game, and was really good at it, since
he'd been playing it since, well, forever, and had memorized all
of their charts. At that point I only knew the basics of the
game, and the numbers on the APBA cards were all Greek to me.
Since I didn't follow the MLB players, he'd give me mighty teams
of the 1960's, like the Washington Senators, while he would
"struggle" with the lowly Los Angeles Dodgers or the New York
Yankees. I was so naive then. That was my first baseball table
game experience.
Strat-O-Matic
baseball entered my life as, again, the result of my pursuit of
the arts. Like many kids my age, I was buying DC and Marvel
comic books, getting into the superhero wave. Marvel had been
running the game ads for years, so they were always staring back
at me. When I grew interested in the sport, I cut out the coupon
(making sure it was from a book where I wouldn't damage the
art, naturally) and mailed it in. I remember having a difficult
time trying to convince my mother that this wasn't a "flash in
the pan " fad purchase in trying to get the money order I
needed, and repeatedly hammed home the company's "money back
guarantee" to her. It was probably one of the greatest sales
pitches I'd ever make in my life. I remember the game arriving
on a Tuesday, August 11th, while my brother Mark and I were
watching the Cubs-Reds game in our living room. After the game
was over, we opened it up and played The 1967 Red Sox (me) and
the 1967 Cardinals (Mark), where I lost 10-1. I do remember Carl
Yastrzemski doubling in my only run.
Wolfman:
What is there about the SOM Baseball game that you like and
appreciate?
Bud:
The layout of the
individual cards, for one. I mentioned the lack of information
on the APBA card - as well as esoteric data. I can guarantee
that no gamer is interested in the player's height and city of
origin when devising his strategies. With Strat-O-Matic, the
card is straight-forward. You KNOW just looking at a Babe Ruth's
or a Frank Thomas' card that they are power hitters with the
ability to draw bases on balls. The cards are aesthetically
pleasing, too (again, the artist in me). Plus, stolen bases
don't just "show up" - another feature that annoyed me in the
other game play. With the development of advanced and
super-advanced play, I truly appreciate all the little
idiosyncrasies of the game and each player's given ability.
Wolfman:
Bud,
when I lived in Chicago back in the 70's or early 80's when did
we meet?
Bud:
Actually, we
connected only once. I remember reading your articles in The
Strat-O-Matic Review, and linked up when you sent out a mailer
(I think) regarding a tournament at your home in Skokie (IL).
My memory of the tournament at your home itself is (a bit) hazy.
I know I was eliminated immediately. My brother Mark made the
final four before elimination.
Wolfman:
Did you know Bob Anderson who also lived on the southside of
Chicago who helped organize our SOM Conventions?
Bud:
I'm sure I must
have met him at the 1980 Convention, the only one I ever
attended.
Wolfman:
Bud, when we were interviewing John Dewan, he told us that you
were a good friend of his, and that he attended the 1980 SOM
Convention at Northwestern with you. Further he said that you
are in his current baseball league too. How did you first meet
John?
Bud:
I met John in
1972 as part of a Catholic youth group. On a retreat with the
group in early 1973, I happened to reveal my Strat-O-Matic hobby
in conversation, and discovered that John and another person
there were also fanatics for the game.
Wolfman:
What can you tell us about the league you are in with John and
his son?
Bud:
The league was
started July 11, 1976, on the spur of the moment, by John, my
brother, Mark, and, after a bit of prodding, me, around a
ping-pong table in our basement. I was reluctant to get involved
because I had tried a mail order league and a hands-on league
that disintegrated within a year. I had no idea then we'd be
still going strong in this one 37 years later. The IDHABTD
League (originally called the "I Don't Have Anything Better To
Do" League by Mark - I changed the title to "I'll Dabble Happily
At Baseball 'Til Doomsday" League because I got used to the
anagram) plays a 72 game season with seven drafted teams
involved. Players are limited to 50% of their innings pitched
and at bat usage.
Wolfman:
Is your brother in this league?
Bud:
Mark started out
in the league, playing for about four or five years before
leaving.
Wolfman:
How has your team done?
Bud:
Make that teams -
two of them are mine. In the previous 36 years, I've won only
one pennant - finishing close a half-dozen times - so, in other
words, the standard Chicago baseball team pace. I seem to have
bad luck with high-end draft picks. For example, on the day I
drafted Dickie Thon of the Houston Astros, I proudly proclaimed
that I was set at shortstop for the next ten years. He broke his
leg the next day.
Wolfman:
Is John difficult to beat since he understands the stats so
much?
Extremely. John
gets more out of a mediocre player card than anyone I've ever
met...great "platoonist", to invent a word.
Wolfman: What
do you remember from the convention at Northwestern University
in Evanston in 1980?
Bud:
Quite a bit. My
main team was the 1979 Milwaukee Brewers, with the 1976
Philadelphia Phillies as a backup (only used once). Sixteen
teams made the playoff rounds, with only two teams unbeaten -
me, at 5-0-1 (there were ties), and another player who was 6-0.
I never faced my friend John Dewan in the tournament...always
concluded that if I had, he'd have beaten me easily. I do
remember one difficult round, where I had trouble scoring before
my opponent and I switched teams. He had an Oakland A's team
from the mid-70's - after Charlie Finley had gutted the
franchise - and I remember playing lots of small ball (bunting,
stealing with B and C stealers) to squeak out 5 runs to go
ahead.
During the
playoff rounds, I remember getting a three-homer game out of
Gorman Thomas to bail me out...I think it was the semi-final
game. In the final game match, against the 1978 Boston Red Sox,
I remember having two 2-RBI results from rolling "groundball (A)
+" with my opponent having the infield in. This was something
that usually I'm always a victim on the other end of; it rarely
went my way. Those four runs were the margin of victory in the
tournament. Afterwards, I was in such shock from winning, I was
compiling the final statistics, dictating them to my opponent
while he was trying to shake my hand! I still have the trophy.
Wolfman:
Ok Bud, lets go back to your graphic work, how did you do the
design for the SOM Fanatic shirt, can you tell us this story?
What happened and how did you have contact with the game company
to make this logo happen?
(Note: The game company did a contest for the logo and
asked from their customers if anyone was a gifted artist, to
send in a drawing and the winner would get a prize.)
Bud:
I read about the
contest and immediately envisioned a crazed fanatic with
bloodshot eyes (from playing all night), rolling dice and
simultaneously playing all three board games - baseball,
football, basketball - at the same time. Kind of a "Tex Avery"
image (my favorite animated cartoon producer). In fact, I stole
a gag from one of Avery's shorts involving road signs. The
original artwork in the background had papers on the bulletin
boards saying "Stats", "More Stats", 'Still More Stats", and
"Yes...You Guessed It". The lettering on the art said "Strat-O-Matic
Forever" I sent in the original art, stupidly not making a
photostat copy of it for myself, feeling that it wasn't going to
win (a mistake I've never made since regarding my
illustrations).
I was working on
some freelance project well into the night, sleeping in late
that Tuesday morning (my day off) so, when the phone call from
James Williams at SOM rang in early that morning to announce I'd
won, I thought my mother was just playing a joke on me and was
on the other end of the phone.
Wolfman:
For each person we interview, we always ask if you have any
special strategies or tips you use when you play with your teams
in your baseball league or in tournaments you wish to share with
our members? Or conversely, is there anything that you have
learned from John Dewan by being in his league for some many
years?
Bud:
Strat-O-Matic
taught me the importance of defense up the middle in baseball,
and speed - not just power - when designing an offense. My
association with John (and the writings of Bill James) educated
me in the significance of on-base percentage. Also, make sure
enough of your regular position players are balanced (batting
left or right) so you're not platooning to death and using up
your bench. I used to drive John crazy with lots of
switch-hitters. As far as strategy is concerned, I've eased up
on trying to always throw out lead runners, hitting the cutoff
man, conceding a few runs. One has to have faith in their
offense to get them back into the game.
Wolfman:
Is there anything else you would like to share that we didn't
ask so far - like any special experiences you have had with the
game that stand out, special people you met or a great
story linked to your time with SOM baseball?
Bud:
I've met and
chatted with writer Bob Vandenberg, whose "'59 Summer of The
Sox" is a staple on my bookshelf. It turns out that he's a SOM Fanatic,
too. Through John Dewan, I've had the pleasure of meeting Bill
James. At the 50th Anniversary Strat-O-Matic Convention in New
York, I was privileged to meet and talk with Hal Richman, the
genius behind the board game. The atmosphere of the
convention so inspired me, that I went home and wrote "The
Strat-O-Matic Baseball Rally" song, (acoustic guitar is my third
passion), copyrighting the song, text and video. My wife, Marge,
put the rally song on YouTube. It's passed 1,700 hits!
(--
note from the Wolfman:
- so I looked up Bud's song on Youtube and found it, he created
it for the 50th Anniversary -- what is interesting is that I
also am a musician who plays an acoustic 12 string guitar and
write songs, I even sang an ad-lib song at the 2nd National
Convention in 1973 in Brooklyn done jointly by the Game Co. and
the SOM Review and like Bud I am left handed but play the guitar
right handed ... its a really great song, very clever lyrics and
a nice melody - it really shows how creative Bud is as an artist
and musician -- I am sure you will like the song, to view it go
to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcBqCteJndo
(c) the music by Bud Podrazik, with permission from Bud to share
with our members.)
Regarding the
game itself, I've had the usual fanatic moments: no-hitters,
(first one was the '67 A's' Chuck Dobson), 4-homer games and
such. I've replayed a few White Sox seasons with a ringer (my
personalized SOM card) in the lineup. My most recent project,
played on-and-of over the last year, was a "Quantum Leap"
tournament, named after the television show from the 90's. For
this, I looked at all my old SOM sets, typed up charts for as
many different ballparks as I could find, and fixed it so I'd
roll a 20-sided die to determine the ballpark chart,
month, park, and weather conditions for each game. Every contest
would take place in a different random park - the two
teams facing each other would have to adapt to win.
Then I took the
2011 Hall of Fame and Heroes sets, divided them the best and
fairest competitive way I could, and structured them into the
original 16 teams from the early 1900's, playing them against
each other in a best-of-seven matchup, with the finalists
playing a best-of-nine contest. Initially, because of the talent
pool, I had been reluctant to do this tournament, because I
figured the Yankees and Giants would mercilessly pulverize
everybody else. To my bewilderment, both those teams were
eliminated in the first round! Virtually all the series went
seven games. The Chicago White Sox went on to beat the
Brooklyn-Los Angeles Dodgers in seven for the finale, with the
MVP of the tournament, Frank Thomas, lining a home run off Don
Newcombe in the top of the 15th inning (the visiting Sox had
come back from behind with two outs in the ninth - three
straight pinch hits). The last game was played at Bennett Park.
Wolfman:
Thanks Bud for answering these questions. Have a great day!